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	<title>Comments on: BloggyNetwork: Pay per Post vs Flat-Fee</title>
	<link>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/</link>
	<description>Soapboxing every damn day</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 20:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pali Madra</title>
		<link>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2804</link>
		<dc:creator>Pali Madra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2007 11:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2804</guid>
		<description>I hope more entrepreneurs  emulate the model followed by Bloggy Networks as flat fee scheme allows writers to write compelling content which increases the usefulness of the blogs amongst the readers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope more entrepreneurs  emulate the model followed by Bloggy Networks as flat fee scheme allows writers to write compelling content which increases the usefulness of the blogs amongst the readers.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2684</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 07:55:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2684</guid>
		<description>True. Ever since I started blogging under the network, I scrapped all other paid blogging and writing work (part of a gentleman's agreement with Bloggy too). It's nice to have a flat sum that you can expect. Bills get paid that way.

Plus, a pay-per-post scheme does put undue pressure to blogger for quality content. Like in the case of LifeSpy, most of the tips I write there need some background research. Some procedural tips, I even actually test and retest to make sure we're giving out the right tips. Those things take a lot of time.

Am just happy to be blogging under Bloggy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True. Ever since I started blogging under the network, I scrapped all other paid blogging and writing work (part of a gentleman&#8217;s agreement with Bloggy too). It&#8217;s nice to have a flat sum that you can expect. Bills get paid that way.</p>
<p>Plus, a pay-per-post scheme does put undue pressure to blogger for quality content. Like in the case of LifeSpy, most of the tips I write there need some background research. Some procedural tips, I even actually test and retest to make sure we&#8217;re giving out the right tips. Those things take a lot of time.</p>
<p>Am just happy to be blogging under Bloggy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2681</link>
		<dc:creator>Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2681</guid>
		<description>As we are smaller (people-wise), there isn't a standardized system. A system for every blogger. Thats part of our flexibility - we don't deal with too many bloggers.

In regards to incentives - absolutely. Those are critical imo - a multitude of possible factors for that. I was just thinking that a 'per post' incentive sucks :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As we are smaller (people-wise), there isn&#8217;t a standardized system. A system for every blogger. Thats part of our flexibility - we don&#8217;t deal with too many bloggers.</p>
<p>In regards to incentives - absolutely. Those are critical imo - a multitude of possible factors for that. I was just thinking that a &#8216;per post&#8217; incentive sucks <img src='http://www.techsoapbox.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2680</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2680</guid>
		<description>I've found bloggers like to know they're being paid at least a base rate per month too - however I've found that there is something to be said for some sort of incentive also. 

I don't personally think 'per post' is the right incentive but the challenge is to find another fair way to give them some incentive to go above and beyond. At b5 we have a flat monthly fee plus a traffic/impression bonus (CPM).

We're tweaked our pay model a number of times since starting (and probably will again) but this is working best for us so far

Interested to know what your base requirements are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve found bloggers like to know they&#8217;re being paid at least a base rate per month too - however I&#8217;ve found that there is something to be said for some sort of incentive also. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t personally think &#8216;per post&#8217; is the right incentive but the challenge is to find another fair way to give them some incentive to go above and beyond. At b5 we have a flat monthly fee plus a traffic/impression bonus (CPM).</p>
<p>We&#8217;re tweaked our pay model a number of times since starting (and probably will again) but this is working best for us so far</p>
<p>Interested to know what your base requirements are.</p>
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		<title>By: Flat Rate Compensation for Network Bloggers at The Blog Herald</title>
		<link>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2623</link>
		<dc:creator>Flat Rate Compensation for Network Bloggers at The Blog Herald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 20:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2623</guid>
		<description>[...] Blog Networks   Apr 23, 2007 at 3:01 pm by J. Angelo Racoma - AhmedF over at Tech Soapbox discusses the virtues of paying a flat rate to network bloggers, instead of the usual pay-per-post setup common among most blog networks. He argues that with a flat fee, bloggers are able to focus on creating good content, instead of focusing on quantity because they have to churn out posts according to schedule, usually without adequate time to do the research and without a good topic to work on. [W]hen it came to Bloggy Network and our paid bloggers, we never took on a pay-per-post model. I absolutely hate it. Successful blogs produce compelling content. They are insightful, interesting, and require some research. When a person is being paid per post, what motivation does he/she have in producing excellence? A pay per post model, imo, simply encourages people to post as often as you want. Of course there is a certain level of editorial control, but defining requirements is a non-trivial task. It isn’t fun. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Blog Networks   Apr 23, 2007 at 3:01 pm by J. Angelo Racoma - AhmedF over at Tech Soapbox discusses the virtues of paying a flat rate to network bloggers, instead of the usual pay-per-post setup common among most blog networks. He argues that with a flat fee, bloggers are able to focus on creating good content, instead of focusing on quantity because they have to churn out posts according to schedule, usually without adequate time to do the research and without a good topic to work on. [W]hen it came to Bloggy Network and our paid bloggers, we never took on a pay-per-post model. I absolutely hate it. Successful blogs produce compelling content. They are insightful, interesting, and require some research. When a person is being paid per post, what motivation does he/she have in producing excellence? A pay per post model, imo, simply encourages people to post as often as you want. Of course there is a certain level of editorial control, but defining requirements is a non-trivial task. It isn’t fun. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: &#160; BloggyNetwork: Pay per Post vs Flat-Fee&#160;by&#160;Blogging Pro</title>
		<link>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2616</link>
		<dc:creator>&#160; BloggyNetwork: Pay per Post vs Flat-Fee&#160;by&#160;Blogging Pro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2616</guid>
		<description>[...] Ahmed has posted an interesting behind the scenes look at the payment model for Bloggy Network. It is interesting to note that Bloggy Network is one of the few, nearly only blog networks that pays a flat fee. So when it came to Bloggy Network and our paid bloggers, we never took on a pay-per-post model. I absolutely hate it. Successful blogs produce compelling content. They are insightful, interesting, and require some research. When a person is being paid per post, what motivation does he/she have in producing excellence? A pay per post model, imo, simply encourages people to post as often as you want. Of course there is a certain level of editorial control, but defining requirements is a non-trivial task. It isn’t fun. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Ahmed has posted an interesting behind the scenes look at the payment model for Bloggy Network. It is interesting to note that Bloggy Network is one of the few, nearly only blog networks that pays a flat fee. So when it came to Bloggy Network and our paid bloggers, we never took on a pay-per-post model. I absolutely hate it. Successful blogs produce compelling content. They are insightful, interesting, and require some research. When a person is being paid per post, what motivation does he/she have in producing excellence? A pay per post model, imo, simply encourages people to post as often as you want. Of course there is a certain level of editorial control, but defining requirements is a non-trivial task. It isn’t fun. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2599</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 16:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2599</guid>
		<description>Not to make this a Bloggy Network love-fest, but I agree with Michael. I have had other opportunities, some meaning more cash in my pocket now and  I decided to stay with Bloggy Network. I can't give their business model, and my job satisfaction any higher praise than that. 

While it was probably much riskier on Ahmed's part, I am glad to hear it is working out well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to make this a Bloggy Network love-fest, but I agree with Michael. I have had other opportunities, some meaning more cash in my pocket now and  I decided to stay with Bloggy Network. I can&#8217;t give their business model, and my job satisfaction any higher praise than that. </p>
<p>While it was probably much riskier on Ahmed&#8217;s part, I am glad to hear it is working out well.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2567</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Apr 2007 03:09:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.techsoapbox.com/bloggynetwork-pay-per-post-vs-flat-fee/#comment-2567</guid>
		<description>You what I love the most about the flat fee model?  I don't go looking to work elsewhere.  When I was working for a few pay-per post sites, you always feel like you have to get a certain number of posts out to make enough money to justify the time you're putting in.

You don't spend as much time as you should on some posts, because you need to get another one up to keep the cash rolling, when 1 good post can bring in more traffic to a site than 20 "eh" posts.   It also means that all of your posts are worth the same amount of money whether you spent 5 minutes on them, or half a day.  That model just doesn't make sense.

Once I started working for Bloggy, I stopped looking at the job boards trying to find a better deal.  I feel like a part of Bloggy because I get paid a "salary", and I get to talk to the bosses on a regular basis.  You can't do that when you're one of 20 bloggers on a site.

One of the best things I've ever done in my life was answering the job post for an "apple blogger" for the Bloggy Network.  Things have just been getting better for me ever since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You what I love the most about the flat fee model?  I don&#8217;t go looking to work elsewhere.  When I was working for a few pay-per post sites, you always feel like you have to get a certain number of posts out to make enough money to justify the time you&#8217;re putting in.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t spend as much time as you should on some posts, because you need to get another one up to keep the cash rolling, when 1 good post can bring in more traffic to a site than 20 &#8220;eh&#8221; posts.   It also means that all of your posts are worth the same amount of money whether you spent 5 minutes on them, or half a day.  That model just doesn&#8217;t make sense.</p>
<p>Once I started working for Bloggy, I stopped looking at the job boards trying to find a better deal.  I feel like a part of Bloggy because I get paid a &#8220;salary&#8221;, and I get to talk to the bosses on a regular basis.  You can&#8217;t do that when you&#8217;re one of 20 bloggers on a site.</p>
<p>One of the best things I&#8217;ve ever done in my life was answering the job post for an &#8220;apple blogger&#8221; for the Bloggy Network.  Things have just been getting better for me ever since.</p>
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